this all out of the blue or did you know that they wanted to close
guess they would have said it was lack of funding?
42 years old)
were two of your docos aired one after the other (10 to midnite last
nite), the first one was about 2002 I guess and did feature Keeli
and Ivy, I'm pretty sure it was followed by the "Whisper Away"
cousin worked at Orana Park http://www.oranawildlifepark.co.nz/ they might be interested,
I'm pretty sure they donít have any chimps at the moment
there people at San Antonio who have some connections with OSU?
you seriously pissed some people off there?
we sit in the southern hemisphere here and look in wonder at the northern
one..... I guess you just wanted to dress up those people, running
around changing locks, in gorilla suits?? Honestly after seeing
so much Animal Planet (favourite channel) over the last 6 years I
see less and less distinction..... you can watch a group of chimps
in the wild, literally beating the crap out of an unfortunate
neighbour.... change channels to some "drama" and see a
bunch of blokes doing the same thing.... only they have clothes on....
like to add this dialogue to my website
forward it to our National Radio here for them to have a look at,
also to my cousin (from Orana park)
worry I will also be talking to my friends about this too!
I imagine you could be facing a complete and major life change here
expect the University will not act in good grace even if the judge
told them to pull their heads in and bring the chimps back; your funding
would be dicked around with no end
this story could be handled/aired as you hope on a worldwide platform,
then funding could well come from a private source. Have you
contacted the discovery crew about this? I'm sure they'd be quite
interested to do some follow up work.
you hadnít had any preparation for this, then you have been treated
very badly if you ask me. Nothing short of Chimpanzee Rustling.
do websites as a hobby here too, if you like I can do one for you,
they're pretty easy to do, just email some copy and jpg picture files
(photos) and I can get started. I would need at least $160 NZD
(for the physical site and name) I guess thatís about $100 US.
It would be a great way to keep an open transparent record (diary) of
the events for everyone to see...
the terminology "chimpanzee rustlers/ rustling" etc, gets
out there it will google beautifully (nothing yet, I've just checked)
all the best Sally, you have my greatest sympathy, thanks for taking
the time to write back
am really becoming intrigued by this, Sally
article says it all really I think:
like Chimp Haven would be the better option?
because someone who couldnít really be bothered with following up!
sure someone somewhere would have said or will say: "well itís
not really my job to find homes for chimpanzees, so I didnít really
get enough time to apply my self fully to it"
enough from me for now! GOD you'll be sick of me by now!!
had a look at the new venue
pool is possibly a bit heavy.... its just more like a zoo from the
be a bit concerned with what they do for enrichment...
nice trees ..... all on the wrong side of the fence I noticed
could really take some cues from our zoos here in New Zealand
more background on it now - there's a lot of material (news articles)
out there already!
what I saw on my visit a few years ago, as well as recent reports,
cesspool may be a gracious term. No enrichment. No fruit.
No vegetables. Only monkey chow. Nice, huh?
And yeah, no trees, little care staff, drunk founder/director, all that
it not be a good idea in the meantime, to not badmouth Primarily Primates
too much, so that you can at least get a chance to visit them?
Also if you were to visit them after a short period, it would be interesting
to document their reaction to seeing you through the wire... it would
also be very interesting to see just what form of accommodation PP
and OSU were to come up with, some of the articles are saying
they will have a free roaming style of enclosure, what ever they
end up in, its all going to be a big shock for them.
just aired the Keeli and Ivy one and now airing your "Chimps:
A Whisper Away from Us" this afternoon again!)
I don't think it matters much what I say about PPI, anyway -- there is
so much very bad and very public information and observations about
its decrepit conditions that what I may contribute shouldn't cause
anyone to blink. I'm not saying any of this to the media or
reporters; I don't have to, since PETA and several other animal rights
organizations already have.
And yes, the questions you raise would be interesting, except that I
would rather have not been put in the position that they could even
be asked. Right now, I don't want to upset the chimps further
by trying to go out there; I'm not sure I would be allowed, anyway.
They need to just have some time to adjust until we hear from the
judge and can get them the hell out of there!
There isn't a short answer to your questions. It's already a &^%$
I'll fill you in as time permits.
And yes, I'm here -- just up to my a-- in alligators, as we say.
of the weekend with our PR firm (they "adopted" us and are
of their work for free -- new website on their server, printing
cost, etc. -- awesome! -- I'll send you a shirt when we get them finished.
What size, anyway? We will likely do Small, Med., Large, and X-Large
plus kids' sizes.
Also, send me a regular snail mail address for shipping the shirt, while
you're at it.
We are still waiting for the federal judge to rule on the motion we filed
on Friday, March 3. The other side (OSU) has 20 days to respond,
hasn't done so yet. I suppose the judge will likely wait the whole
days before making a decision; I heard that this is a particularly busy
time for him, anyway, so the 20 days is a welcome time window, I'm sure.
We, in the meantime, are going nutso worrying about the chimps, as it
is very difficult to get any current information about how they're doing.
More later as things unfold. The story is going to be getting out
major national American publications soon, and so should be hitting the
international media shortly thereafter. Watch for me on a TV near
----- Original Message -----
New stories should begin to come out again soon, now that
the latest motion to the courts has become public record.
I wonder how the OSU spokesman is going
"...OSU gave false statements that impacted on your honor's
decision concerning our request for a temporary restraining order..."
If I was that judge, I would be really ticked off, indeed!